Welcome to the High Level People podcast with your host, P.J. Crescenzo. This is the show where every week we go inside the minds of modern market leaders. These are world-class entrepreneurs, thought leaders, and ministry leaders who are making a generational impact on the world today. The question is, if you're going to compete, why not compete at the highest level possible? And that's what this show is designed for, to give you a playbook for your life so that you can continue to climb levels week after week. This is the High Level People podcast and welcome to today's episode. Welcome to the High Level People podcast. Today, we have a record-breaking guest, not only for, I believe, the most accumulated miles of anybody I follow on Strava, but other than that record, also probably the longest time friend of somebody that I've known since first or second grade that I still talk to, which is very rare. Also just recently married at a beautiful wedding in Puerto Rico. And today I really just want to go deep with a longtime friend of just the journeys of traveling from Swedesboro, New Jersey, this little place on the map that you would never know unless you were from Swedesboro to different Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Right off the bat, it is crazy. Even as you were saying it, like thinking about all the people we've met since that time and all the people that, you know, come in and out of your life and yeah, feel very lucky to stay Thanks bro. Do you feel like we're finally at the age now where you feel so removed from high school and where you came from that it actually feels like a separate life? Like Yeah, 100%. I think even like chapters after that, like I wouldn't even say that that's the previous chapter that that's, you know, it feels like so long ago, but it is nice to have, route, like to be able to continue some of those routes and where that path travels. But yeah, especially being in a small town, you know, it's a lot of people associate themselves with who they are in high school or where they went or who their friends are. And Well, what was the toughest thing about moving out of where you grew up and walk me through, bro, because I don't even know. So where did you first live, like post high school? What was kind of your journey before you Yeah, so went to college at Rutgers in North Jersey, which was only an hour and a half away from our hometown. So it wasn't really Too much of an experience being away. It was enough freedom where I wasn't home or seeing the same exact thing every day, but it was still close enough that I was seeing my family, you know, maybe on a monthly basis. After college, moved back with my parents for about a year before buying a house in the suburbs of Philly. It was a duplex, so I lived in half, rented the other half out. lived there for about a year and a half, yet learned some very expensive lessons during that process. And then- What inspired you to buy the duplex? I knew that I wanted to move, like moving out of my parents' house, I knew that I wanted to own property. And I, you know, at the time probably was chasing something that was maybe a little too trendy or didn't do enough research going into it, into all that really comes with it. You see a lot of people online that are like, oh, it's passive Yeah, I don't even think passive income even exists, bro, honestly. I don't think Yeah, it's the furthest thing from passive. Maybe semi-involved income. Yeah, you either get really good at finding contractors or watching YouTube videos of how to repair things and dealing with issues that you didn't think your daily life Okay. All right. So lessons learned from your first duplex, what would you say? Big, biggest lessons The, the sticker price is not the cost that you're paying, whether that's, whether that's something you're renting out or like living in. And, uh, there's always going to be something that you want to fix something that you want to change something that you want to upgrade. And especially if you're renting it out, there's something that someone else wants to fix or that they want to upgrade. They want to change. So, um, I, it was a tough. time finding that balance between being a good landlord and also being financially responsible and also being fair in terms of seeing what is the ROI on this versus is this something Okay. All right. So go to Rockers, still saying family monthly, go back to your parents, say, okay, I'm going to go into the real estate game. You So I owned that for about two years. And that's when I moved to Florida after that, after those two years. Let me step back, actually, while still owning the duplex. I lived in the one half for about a year. For the second year that I owned it, I moved back with my parents to try to create more income and save up, knowing that that was never the end goal. I thought that I was going to have the property for a lot longer, but I knew that I didn't want to live in that area longterm. So I wanted to kind of save up as quickly as I could and then figure out where I love it. Okay. All right. So yeah, Kelly, my wife, we had been discussing- Is it crazy saying my wife? I've said it a few times now. I'm trying to like sneak it in as much as possible to get natural to it, but it feels right She's more of a traveler than I am. Okay. Much more open to the idea of moving to different cities and things like that and. One thing that was very important to her was living somewhere that is walkable. And one thing that was important to me is living somewhere near a beach. So that limited us to either the West Coast or the East Coast. And, you know, uh, so we visited a few, we visited Charleston actually. Yeah. I loved it there. And we also visited Miami. We were cool. So we were pretty set on Miami. We took one trip there, spent about a week exploring the different neighborhoods and things like that. And then maybe eight months later, came back down to look at specific apartment buildings. During that trip, Kelly had a friend who lived in Fort Lauderdale. So we spent two days up here. And I was like, okay, this is much more of my speed. Actually, it seems like a place that people can actually live, establish, and It's the same weather as Miami without all the short-term memory loss. And that's no negative to Miami. We love, we love the speed of Miami, but just referencing cultures accordingly. Yeah, that's correct. All right. So I think it's home for the next few years. I think I have a hard time like really pinning down anything, especially. I know that my priorities are going to change. Whereas right now, like when moving here, the priority is walkable and beach. In a few years, the priority will be, you know, work, kids, schools. Let's go, baby. Come on. I know that priorities will I love that. Two weeks post-wedding, are we already picking out kids' Okay, cool. I was going to say, that is a really magical weekend. Yeah, not quite. That's awesome, bro. All right. So walk me through your running journey, bro. Like when, when did you get into running? How did that start? Like Yeah. So I started running casually. Like honestly, during COVID I had a class that was in business school that was it was like a leadership or entrepreneurship class. And, you know, we were supposed to, initially our project was to, you know, do case studies on existing companies, create a new product for them. And that's why it would work in their market. And then COVID shut down classes and everything. And the teacher was just like, I don't care what you guys do, just do something and like follow a new journey, whether that's tend to a garden, if that's a new skill for you, really good at cooking, like do a hundred pushups a day, whatever it may be. And I was like, you know, maybe I'll start running. Cause I had family members who are very talented and run like wood dust. Uh, I was like, okay, maybe I'll get into this. And I, for the S for the first, maybe two or three years, I was running the same two to four mile loop in the neighborhood. And it got very mundane. And around that time is when I stopped drinking as well. And I met some people through that. And one person that I had met was, is a very big runner as well. And he was like, why are you doing all this? Why are you running? Like, are you signing up for any races? Are you ever going to take the next step? And I was like, Yeah, I guess you're right. I probably should take it a little more seriously. And you know, I signed up for the Philly marathon, not too long after that. And then I think I did a 16 week training It's about three to four months and then got after it. And then what was your experience The fun for the first 20 miles, and then... Same, Bro, those last couple of miles, oh my gosh. I Yeah. There's nothing that you can do to prepare for that. And you almost have a gift in the first marathon of not knowing what that All right, so you do your first marathon, then what? Then when did this, because to me, it almost seems like part of your identity now, like it's so consistent. And Yeah, I would say it is a very big part of my identity, especially in Florida. All the friends that I have I know. I didn't even know there was running clubs until I saw you. And then I'm like, there's running clubs So many here. Yeah. Um, So yeah, after running the marathon, I was like, okay, that's pretty cool. I'm already in relatively good shape from this training the last 16 weeks. I may as well just keep doing this and see how far I can take it and take the good with the bad, having a bit of an addictive personality. But once I pick something up, I have to Have you found that you've learned more about yourself through running? Both. Yeah. Both in discipline facet. And when I run, I don't listen to music. It's just me. Wow. I like having that. That is my time too. you know, focus on whatever I need to or get away. Yeah. That's awesome, bro. It's yeah. It's as it's probably equally beneficial for That's so good, bro. Okay. All right. So I'll try to stay on track. So you run the first marathon, you're already in shape. You're like, all right, let me keep doing this. I know I'm going to probably get distracted like 19 times. I'll get us back on track. All right. So finish really marathon. You're in shape. You're like, all right, Um, let's see. So for them for the next Um, I was doing local races where, where are you working on speed when you were doing this? Was that kind of part of the mindset? Cause you, cause you Yeah, not nearly what I'm doing now, but like during that time, I would do like maybe one track worked out per week and I didn't have, I don't know. I was still learning a lot. Yeah. Going into the second, like I signed up for a Philly marathon again the next year to see if I could beat my, um, and in that training did a lot more speed work, like a dedicated long run per week, dedicated speed workout week, but it's same thing. You're still learning. And then now I would say I'm doing at least two speed workouts per Okay. All right. So Philly marathon. So what, what keeps you anchored now? Is it the next race? Is it the club? Is it the community? Like what keeps you putting in the miles you're putting in at the speed you're putting them in? So, um, I don't think it's other than the most hilarious Strava titles for runs I've ever seen, other than the, than, than the opportunity to just to get comedic cardio, which also I do want to hear about the, the skit as a standup comedian too, and that experience. Um, but So yeah, as unhealthy as it may be, it feels like something I have to do. It sets the tone for the day. So you run in the mornings? I Okay. All right. So what's the next thing? Is there a big race you want to do? Is there a time you want to achieve? Is there a total amount of miles? Like what, what's on your, uh, checklist as you continue to Yeah. So, uh, I don't think that there's, it's not races that keep me anchored. It's not like I have to do this next race. Uh, like I just like seeing, I want to see how fit I can get and see how good I can get at I was gonna say, have you, have you shifted your nutrition or hydration or has any of your other parts of your health been shifted because of Significantly. Yeah. Like luckily when I got, when I started taking running seriously, I was already, I didn't drink any alcohol. So that was not something I had to cut out as part of it. But that is something that a lot of people do, or at least minimize it. But now, especially as we're getting older, too, I feel like I feel what I eat so much more. If I'm not strict on diet, I So it's really, you're really monitoring peak performance. Like it's, it's optimizing performance at the highest levels. Did I, did I see this? Did I make this up or did you have some form of relationship with Yes. So I was an ambassador for them for a few years. I still, I still do it with them, but just not Yeah. Um, now it's mostly like telling people about it or, um, okay, cool. So I love it. What, what was the toughest thing about stopping drinking? Like I would say at the time, that was most of my social life. That was the central thing around the people I was hanging out with. And for the audience, that's not you. We weren't drinking buddies. We were just good friends for a while. But a I don't know if we ever actually drank together. I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm sure at like one point, but I don't even know if that was everything we did, but yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure on the plus minus of if we've ever had But yeah, I think that was the hard, like the hardest part was losing what felt like my most of my social life, which that alone shows you is not 100%. And it's like double depression. You have your body going through the natural withdrawals, and then you have the community, which is your sense of fulfillment. So have you had any desire to go back to that old life, or have you completely just shed away what So when I first stopped, would still try to like go out. And I just didn't enjoy it. It's not really a fun environment to be in. And you kind of see how people are acting. And it just makes you feel uncomfortable. And now I mean, now it's been almost five years. So We We were together when I was still drinking for- Oh wow, you guys have been together that long? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, bro. That's incredible. Yeah, we've been together for like over six You've really always been born to be a great husband. I hope so. And that's me too. We've been lover boys at So I think we can relate on that. All right. So you guys have been to six, been together six years. How supportive was she in your journey of getting off Yeah. Uh, she was tough, tough affair, which Like, uh, and just, what Yeah. And like, if I wasn't behaving in a way that an ideal boyfriend does, or if I'm embarrassing myself, if I'm not giving the best reflection of myself or of her, she would call me out on it. And I love that. It's like, is this really who you want to be who you like, how you want to show yourself in the world? You know, when you You got one of two options. You either neglect to pretend it's not real or you just man up and do better. Correct. Bro, that's so good. Yeah. Um, all right. So what, what does a week of training look like now? Like Monday through Sunday, like walk me through, or I Yeah. So I'm usually doing at least six runs per week. I usually, Monday will be an easy run just to get the week started. Just what's an easy round, uh, And then usually I'll do like Tuesdays and Thursdays workouts. So Tuesday will be maybe a speed workout that, uh, ends up being about eight to 10, eight to 12 miles total. Wow. But the speed portion of that is much shorter. So it's about warm up two miles, cool down. And Six to eight. Yeah. Thursday, another speed, but that will be, well, it won't be a speed workout, but it'll be more focused on lactate threshold. So as fast, I'll go at like, So when I say speed workout, that's going I would like to be, I'm probably around six, Probably. Bro, that is unreal. Like that's mind boggling to me. I'm going to, I'll share like a little bit of my running journey and how I got into it and how that started. But bro, when I hear these speeds, I'm like, either my legs weigh a thousand pounds or I don't have the right No, no, you you're doing the right thing. And I'll tell you, it never ends because I see people or I know people I know, but did you just say, I don't know if you follow Cam Haines and Truett Haines at all. I'm looking at a 530, five mile, like 24 minute, five mile. I'm like, bro, what are we doing in jeans? What Yeah. Yeah. I think you can, you only become Truett Haines That's a great, bro. That is a great point. Actually, let's, let's actually process that. Cause that's a fun topic. Do you think Truett Hmm. That's a good point. So it also goes into who's pouring into you. Like how many positive influences have Yeah. It's really only positive. All like, even me, like everyone I've met here, like I said, I've met through running. It was very weird to me at first that like, it's just all positive all the time. because they know how much they don't want to do the workouts either. They don't want to run long either. They don't want to, I mean, yeah. What Like you're getting, you just got to do it. No, no excuses. Get after it. Unless it's like, all right. So you had six to six to eight miles, eight to 10 miles. So let's just say it's eight, 16, 24. I mean, you can just tell me how many, how many miles are you putting in on a week? About 50 to 60. Wow, And that's what I've found to be. I mean, so far the max that I can do where I don't feel injured, I can still take one rest day per week. And I can still go to the gym a few Now that's awesome. I'm excited, bro. I'm excited to get there. I just did my first hundred mile month. Um, even though Java clipped off a couple, cause I forgot to manually add one in, but whatever it should 93, I'll take it. And that, that felt like the first time I actually ran like consistently, like the 25 to 30 miles in one week, I was like, Oh wow, I'm running. Yeah. So I can only imagine 50 to 60 miles, bro. What what were some people that kind of shattered your belief on what was possible? Like when you got into this game, there were some people you look up to or sometimes you saw and you're like, wow, I have no idea what So first, I'll tell you, you're also running into it. It's very difficult to run. So, yeah, you're putting. They're for real, they're serious. Yeah. Mud, ice, snow, 9, 9,500 feet of elevation. So yeah. Yeah. I would, I would like to be able to run with my shirt off once before I leave Colorado and I have a mask on with like frozen eyebrows. Um, But now I appreciate, bro. I've tried to pretend that's like not even a thing because I'm like, Genuinely. You can. All the professional runners, they live in Colorado, Utah, Arizona. Okay. So what they'll train out there and then go hit a race somewhere in a. Yeah, it'd be interesting. I'd be interested to see what I could run right now in flat ground because even the cardio at the elevation, like my wrestling heart rate, and again, I don't know what's like medically, you know, I don't know what the tears are, but my wrestling heart rate is like 50. Yeah. Like when I get an IV done, it's just like, that's very good. Yeah. There's no movement. All right. So who, so who shattered your mind, bro? When you got into this, like every time I look at, I look at my job, I see you, I get inspired. Who were some people that you looked at when you were running and you were like, bro, this guy makes me So Of people that I personally know, like I brought up my uncles earlier. There's one specifically who, his name's David as well. He was just the, he officiated our wedding as well. So it's someone I'm very, very close to, yes. He is, he's ran a, I want to say 238 marathon, which is, yeah, yeah, which is like So that's unreal, bro. I mean, that's, that's, that's blowing past Boston It's yeah. It's like closer to like Olympic qualifying times then Boston. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy, bro. Having someone in my personal life that can do that is pretty Has he taught you anything about running or help shift your mindset at all about what it He doesn't even go too deep into like mindset stuff, but he, he's very blunt. And we'll like, I'll ask him a question about running. And he's like, well, yeah, like if you want to do that, then you run 22 miles 40 40 mile weekends. What advice would you give to somebody that wants to get into running? Like sees their friends posted on Strava is thinking about doing it, but they're just like, I don't know if I can. Like, what advice would you give to somebody who wants to You can, it's, it's a very long game. And like I said, there's no finish line, but like, that's a good, that's a good point right there that there's no finish line. No. And if you're better than, you know, you say you were the previous day or If you feel better about yourself, then that's a win. You don't need to win a race. You don't need to hit a certain time. You just need to like determine Do you have a race day mentality when you show up of like something you Uh, not necessarily something I tell myself, but it's. a It's, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm finished or die. I'm like, you're either going So yeah. Dark, dark moments. Yeah, bro. I'm excited. I mean, you've probably seen, but like I signed up, so there's another guy, um, you guys would get along great and I'm going to get him on the podcast, but he just works within our organization. I haven't spent a ton of time. But, uh, like week one at the company, he's like, yeah, I'm going to need my first couple of days off. I'm like, okay, cool. No problem. Like what are you doing? He's like, I'm running Moab 240. I'm like, what bro? And that, that was the first time I ever got exposed. I'm like, what do you mean? Like, what are you talking about? He's like, oh, I'm running this 240 mile race in Utah. I'm like, bro, before that, all I ever got exposed to was five Ks. I'm like 240 miles, bro. What are you talking about? And then he's at work the next week. I'm like, I couldn't even fathom what was possible. But then I realized, so I signed up for that marathon, I probably like a month, six weeks to train. And I realized even some of the people who are way better shaped than I was, didn't finish. Like how much mental really is running, just being able to just show up and do it again and again. So I'm excited because as a sub six foot or six foot on my best day with some boots, a white man, I don't know if I'm gonna make it very far in any other athletic endeavor at this point in my life. But Strava has re-brought back my chance to compete. Yeah, I'm all right. But at an LA fitness with the right lineup on a Saturday morning, it could be dangerous, but that's probably where it starts and stuff. That's awesome, bro. What about, so I have a couple more questions. What about committing to marriage? Like what would you say to, cause I think we come from a place where everybody just wants to wait to wait for the sake of waiting. Like there's no like, and nobody wants to make a commitment to anything, what allowed you to confidently make the choice to get married when, you know, we come from a place back home where it's like nowadays in 2026, just date for 25 years before you ever make a commitment. What gave you the confidence Yeah. And that's a mindset that I really don't understand. in all aspects of life, like I'd like to be urgent. And especially, Kelly and I have been together for a while. So we were together for already, if not five years, about five years, when we got engaged, and not that we've experienced every difficult thing that we're going to go through together. But when you have enough difficult over, you know, half a decade, you go through enough difficult scenarios and different scenarios, people passing away, you're just in a bad place, personally, careers not going the way you want it to, or, you know, on the other end of that, you're doing fantastic. You feel amazing. You got a promotion, you know, you have a new nephew or niece or like things like that. When you have someone that has been there through the worst times and you see how they support you when they're there to celebrate you through the best moments and like When something great happens to you and that's the first person you want to tell, you can't wait to celebrate with them. And they have the same, like they can just match the same level of enthusiasm. That's, it's hard to like even second You know what a good takeaway from that is? It's like when you go through something difficult with somebody, just believe what you, what you went through. Like, I think sometimes people are like, well, I haven't gone through this yet. Like we haven't gotten hit by a truck and got set on fire. So I don't know how we're going to respond to that. It's like, bro, the thing you're waiting on might never even happen, but you're missing the great thing in front of you. I was listening to an amazing talk this morning about green lights. Like a lot of times God will give you a green light in your life and you're just sitting at the traffic light. Like, I'm just waiting. It's like, bro, the light is green. Like, what are you sitting in the car for? Yeah. Like waiting for somebody to hit the gas pedal and like literally push you to the other side of the road. Yeah. I was, I was actually very surprised at how, how When you pick that book up, did you actually think there was going to be any fire in there? No. Like a handsome man on the cover, it's going to sell a lot of copies, but is there going to be any That's awesome, bro. All right. So two more things, one vision next three to five years, like running marriage, family career, like what's next, what are you working towards? What's the, the dream, the BHAG filming in From a career aspect, I would like to, So I work as a business analyst in, uh, for an insurance company and building like the technical requirements to build that product over the next three to five years. And I would like to just become an expert in building products and getting more technical with, uh, like software Give me an example of a product you would build. Like what's something that, that So what I do work on now is, uh, it's an OCR tool. So optical character recognition where we work for our mortgage insurance integration business or mortgage insurance origination business. So when people submit the mortgage documents to us, all of those go into our application. our application will classify the different documents that are in that, you know, whether there's an ERLA document, is there an AUS, is there an income statement, credit report, whatever, it'll tell you, yeah, the credit report's on pages four to nine. And then the income statement is 11 to 13. It'll determine which of those is the most recent version, especially when you're looking at like income stuff or tax data, and then after it identifies what's the final version, it'll extract that, you know, what's the borrower's name, income, social security, all that stuff, and it'll put it onto another platform for underwriters. So it just So walk me through mortgage insurance, bro. You're talking post-closing mortgage insurance. The deal's already funded. So what impact or control does the insurance company have when a loan's already out from an insurance perspective? Default is, so when, yeah, when buyers don't have enough for 20%, we'll review their credit and I'll say that- So your company's actually doing the underwriting on the mortgage insurance, either on the private mortgage insurance or on, you know, just open market mortgage insurance for buyers that don't have You know what's funny, bro? Like this is what's my, I'm actually glad we're talking about this. I've only had one person in my career that was denied mortgage insurance. Really? So 2,500, whatever it is, 3,000 loans, one person was declined mortgage insurance and I mean, from a lending perspective, there Not like, not frequently. I'm not as much on the business side of like doing Right. But like, yeah, the documents I see, we've already approved the Got it. So it's more, it's more the ability and how you're able to extract the data and streamline the, the visibility that Yeah. I mean, Yeah, I expected to be very rare that someone would be denied mortgage insurance. Bro, when that happened, I was like, what do you mean I feel like you would have been denied steps before that. They did. It was a previous bankruptcy, a previous short closure. There's multiple things where they just defaulted on deals, but they were old, so we couldn't see them. We saw them. We just didn't think it would make an impact. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how far back, like they'll check credit stuff, but that's a pretty big factor with someone's lending you Yeah. Minor detail. Am I going to get the money back? Yeah. All right. So master product development. What about a What about training? So, yeah, I'm probably going to do, uh, the Marine Corps marathon in October. So I would like to definitely go under three hours, which is 650 per mile. But I would really, I would really, really like to go under 250. Wow. Yeah. Let's go. What's Boston qualifier for our age? It's 255. But because so many people get it, there's a buffer where you need to be faster than the qualifier. And last year, last year, there was, I think a nine minute buffer. So you had to get a two 46. That's, I You could do it, bro. 100%. Maybe not by the end All right, no, we're speeding the timeline up. 12 months, you can do it, bro. You can do it. Yo, you know what? This is like, it's another total tangent, but this changed my life and I need to do it again. So I got off social media in January and like one of my greatest strengths and also greatest weaknesses, I'm just like constantly downloading information. And I download so much information that I'm, it's competing philosophies. And I'm like, I don't even know what I'm implementing. But in January, I read all of the books from a guy named Dr. Benjamin Hardy. So he came up with 10x is easier than 2x. He came up with science of scaling. Like I just read all of his books. And bro, that was such a life changing experience because it said you should never set a goal further than three years out. So even though you're not setting goals further out, but he's like, there is no such thing as a five or 10 year goal. Like you can't actually even relate to what your life will be like in 10 years. People set 10-year goals. It's like, think about where you were at 10 years ago. We were in high school. We were in 2016. We were at Kingsway. If you told me that I'd be living in Telluride, Colorado, and that you would not be drinking and breaking three-hour marathons, living in Florida, married to Kelly, we can't even fathom what that reality is. So anyway, he was just saying the most, the longest goal you set is three years. And the way you view time is the future should be used as an aggressive filter for the decisions you make today. Like, so in other words, if you knew that you had to qualify for Boston by next April, like you had to, what decisions would you make differently over the next 12 months, knowing you have no other choice, but to achieve that. I like that. Yeah. And that's a knee bro. I was blew up my world because it's like, he was given examples of like he had one client and he's like, Oh, one day I want to own a European soccer team. Like that was his dream. And he's like, okay. He's like, so what's your roadmap? He's like, well, I'm going to go get my MBA. I'm going to become a lawyer. I'm going to build a real estate portfolio and then I'm going to own a European soccer team. He's like, what are the first four have to do with owning a European soccer team? And he's like, I don't know. I just feel like those are all the things I need to do to be worthy of owning a European soccer team. He's like, bro, if you want to own a European soccer team, just make that the three year goal and you'll figure it out. Right. So it changed my mind because so many times, like with the family and it's like, even, even yesterday I'm talking to Ellen. She's like, what is the goal? And I'm like, you know, have the highest quality life with, you know, the least amount of make as much money, the least amount of time as possible and positively impact as many people as possible. She's like, okay, well, the four things you just said you want to do have nothing to do with any of those. And I'm like, you are right. They have nothing to do with the goals I'm pursuing, but somehow they get on the calendar. So anyway, bro, um, I believe you can do it. So we'll have to schedule out a reminder 12 months from now. And Uh, so the last one I finished was Yeah. So I, in December tried to do Palm beach down here and I only made it to like the half marathon mark before I realized I was not going to hit my goal. Wow. I came in the half at like one 29 and I was falling off significantly, but that's another tangent. Um, okay. Yeah. All right. So Marine Corps marathon in October, Um, yeah. So I'm going to say sub two 50 for Okay. What do you, what do you think is defined? Like, if you think about who you were when you were 20, right. And you're in South Jersey, you're in Philly versus who you are today. Like what have been some defining shifts that have allowed you Yeah, it is very hard to think back on who you used to be because it just seems like a different person. I think now I'm a lot more willing to admit that I don't have the answers and willing to listen to people who are more experienced than I am, or Hmm. And what, what advice would you give to somebody that is struggling with alcohol? Like if there's somebody that's at the bars four to five nights a week, they're drinking constantly. Like what, what word of encouragement would you give them about having It's absolutely worth it. It, it Hmm. Come on, let's go. I love it, bro. All right. Final question. You can pick. When it's all said and done, you log your last Strava workout, which will probably be like an AI holographic by the time it's all said and done. You tell your AI bot, hey, I just finished my last workout. I'm done. What do you want to be known for? That's number one. what advice would you give somebody that feels like they can't go to the next level? They can't pick up the new hobby. They can't do the next thing. What advice would you give that person? So either legacy or Uh, it So, um, I'll go with the legacy question. Cause that's something I've even like flip flopped on a lot in the last few years. Uh, I think it's less of a legacy of like wanting to see, I don't want to see like my name on a building or anything like that. I would like to have build very close relationships and have, you know, when I'm gone, I would like those who know me to be able to tell stories about me, you know, or if they see reminders, if I was just, yeah, like, I hope that my story is That's good. I love that, bro. Well, my brother and in 2026, one of the best ways to catch up is to just jump on the pod. So I'm so grateful for you making some time today to catch up with your boy. And it was amazing to hear kind of everything you've done over the last couple of years. And congrats on some of the wins, the milestones. And I'm excited to see you crush the Thank you brothers. Awesome catching up with you. And I would love to, yeah, come on again sometime or you just, I need to call you off So now you're good, bro. All right. 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